on one hand, he legitimately feels Tavros is the last thing he has left. Horribly murdered in public, no one cares. Paraded about in public as a slave to the guy that murdered him, still no one cares. March trashed his room, has threatened that all Shark's things are his things and has pulled the dick move of trying to get Shark to "give" him Tavros which Shark was only able to refuse because it's impossible, Jackal is not his to give, but it's a lot of pressure. SO BASICALLY, LAST GOOD ONLY GOOD THING HE HAS.
and he doesn't want to get anywhere near him. BECAUSE OF THAT THREATENING MARCH HAS DONE he does not want to be used as a tool to torment Jackal which he knows he can be. He is super bitter about Jackal staying elsewhere but reassured that it's not because of him, but he wants to object NO WHY SAGE STAY WITH ME but because of those fears is like oh god bad idea. IS GLAD TAVROS IS STAYING AWAY BUT HATING ON SAGE BECAUSE OF IT.
He likes him but he's terrified that that affection is also the last thread to be cut MARCH GOT RID OF EVERYTHING ELSE will he really allow me to keep this one. It's better if I just don't see you Jackal so he can't cut itttt and basically he's driving himself a little crazy about Jackal. (And a lot of other things, but also Jackal)
PACKRAT STILL REMAINS THE ONE that he likes most on Celeste, even if the issues with March are a little more obvious now that he can't deny it away. He's still preferring to ignore the issue though because jesus fucking christ Packrat was murdered in front of him and that was completely and totally traumatic.
. . . And I'm pretty sure that if Packrat cut that one tie to protect him, Tavros would never go back ever. Like, saving Celeste in his mind would be completely impossible and it's already like... he's standing on a cliff, and one more thing can throw him off and there would be no saving it and that is such a terrible way to put it considering that Tavros got cliffed in canon!!
But uh. Yeah. Packrat is one of the few things saving Celeste as a team for him. . . He likes Lark and Bunny and he liked Dory!! But he can't with March, so if Packrat cuts that tie in order to protect him Celeste will never be able to get him back as a teammate. He'd end up roboting through everything that has to do with the team.
THAT IS HOW IMPORTANT PACKRAT IS TO HIM RIGHT NOW basically.
And he's really concerned about the slavery thing and WE SHOULD THREAD SOON BECAUSE TAVROS WANTS ANSWERS.
IF I HAD THE ENERGY TO BE PISSED I WOULD BE PISSED.
as it is there's some bitter seething though not quite as bad as at Lark. he also thinks Bunny still doesn't get it what with offering to make him food and then agreeing to his enslavement we are clearly not on the same page here and he wants to beat him around the head with what this means to him. also the "taking this too seriously" comment. NO I AM TAKING THIS JUST SERIOUSLY ENOUGH YOU DICKWAD.
two in one comment is cheating but FINE SUNSHINE.
sunshine was at first a !!! shit guy who stabbed me and made me feel helpless THOUGH NOT IN THE MEMORY but in deco where he wasn't even aware he had that weakness. FIRST REACTION WAS ESTABLISH DOMINANCE ASAP. BUT OKAY CONTRACT TIMES/OPPORTUNITY CAME UP FOR HIM. and he jumped at that because honestly contract with March, he had given up the second he made it. IT'S UNBREAKABLE, BINDING. While he was smart enough to include a clause to allow for revision, he more or less had accepted he was totally fucked.
But now he hasss a servanttt that doesn't know he has command seals, and also hates March. PLUS, A THING HE HAS AND HAS POWER OVER. and he doesn't mind if he loses this one so much because there is no like or actual possessive feeling over Gilgamesh, even though Packrat coveted him Shark is like tool. When he is a little less blue-screen'd out Shark might be overcoming his fatalism and resignation to start plotting.
BUNNY REALLY DISLIKES SHARK. He tries to give him a chance because team > everything but the way Lark phrased his and March's relationship made him dislike him a lot. He does... try ... though......... and he's not very successful at hiding some of his dislike from him (trying not the laugh at his jokes, saying he was taking this too seriously) and the cake was more out of pity / a sense of guilt than anything else (I LET YOU BE KILLED EVEN IF MARCH WAS TOTALLY JUSTIFIED IN DOING IT!! IF I HAD DONE SOMETHING EARLIER NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE EVEN HAPPENED!!!!! etc etc).
And. Sunshine really doesn't like Shark. He used to just see him as "useful" because of the contract -- "I get all this magical energy that I need to survive and all he can do is say I'm his Servant which doesn't mean a lot since I don't have to obey him!!" Bbbut that's changed recently with the command seal relevation and moved more into the "oh god what if he finds out about them and orders me to do something terrible" territory. On a personal level he dislikes Shark's attitude and really the command seals only add to that. WE WILL HAVE TALKS SHARK
Would Shark really try to take advantage of SERVANT!!1 in order to get back at March eventually or
all other feelings and positive impressions are now he straight up hates lark. WELL OF COURSE YOU SOULLESS TOOL DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH ME BEING MARCH'S BITCH NOW BUT ME I'M LESS THAN PLEASED. betrayal feelings and bitterness and lark was the one he liked best out of new teammates but nolove is over.
he would like to find out how to make lark suffer. and then make sure he suffers for a very long time.
KIND OF SUCKS YOU HATE THE SHIT OUT OF ME I STILL KINDA LIKE YOU. he is also... very aware that forced enslavement is extremely different from willing loyalty and is kinda like ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO COMPARE THEM... it's kind of like the cake thing
thought you were joking but gave you the chance to confirm joking and... well...
isn't really sure how to behave around Shark but does still want to talk to him because people liking him matters five billion times less than him liking people when it comes to who Lark wants to spend time around? HENCE A LOT OF HOLE DIGGING MOSTLY \o/ #winning #celeste #etc.
DOES FEEL BAD ABOUT HELPING GET YOU KILLED but he's not going to apologize either because he wouldn't... take it back... so he's not actually sorry \o/
don't worry he'll stop feeling bad soon.
anyway though Shark is totally justified in hating him and Lark knows it so he's not going to. defend himself ever, and. it isn't affecting his opinions on Shark at all...
ACTUALLY YES. SHARK NEVER EXPECTED ANYTHING FROM MINT, for all that he is comfortable with her and likes her company HE KNOWS BUSSING IS POSSIBLE FROM SHELL AND ALL THAT. also she doesn't have the full picture and didn't enable this to happen or tell him he deserves it like some of celeste did. HE'S ANNOYED but not annoyed at her specifically. WE COOL.
MINT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOW THE CINDERELLA THING WENT DOWN
IT WAS BALLS She is super frustrated about it! Like...when she initially set what she thought was Sys on fire, she...didn't see how it would be troublesome or hurt anything? Because the painting is just like a doorway, right? Plus, paintings, fuck 'em. So, when everybody was drawn in and it was all passive-aggressive "somebody burned me so now I'm gonna kill EVERYONE bluh bluh" it was...irritating? And she figured that in reality she'd be targeted by Cinderella but that...never happened? Instead it was all collateral damage, including chewing on her teammates which is both a dick move and insultingly non-personal. Anyway, killing zombies with fire is RPG 101, so of course the prince should be set fire! Besides, beginning and ending with flames bookended so nicely! Mint honestly has no idea why anyone was pissed about any of what she did, and considers Striders known douches so their anger kinda means little /o/ And then, the whole fighting Mary thing was like okay?? kinda pointless?? but she hates Mary so whatever??
tl;dr the fact that Cinderella never confronted her about what she did and in fact she had to be the one to confront Cinderella is something she considers the absolute worst thing, an unforgivable low blow. Having (inadvertently!) caused the situation that made her have to watch her teammates die is something she is trying desperately not to think about or blame herself for (this is not working). She gives negative fucks about what any non-shell thinks, and rather than be scared off from pissing off paintings she feels even more enmity towards them--she'll just make sure to personally introduce herself to any portraits she wrongs in the future (possibly as March Hare of Celeste /o/). Also, if Cinderella ever returns she is attacking the shit out of it, no hesitation. :|b
HOW MUCH DID MINT RUIN THINGS OOCLY? what was the original plan for cinderella and resetting the gallery, if that's not too spoilery to ask?
Mary's priority is keeping things running as smoothly as possible she doesn't want the gallery being ruined and if that calls for sacrifices so be it. \o/ She isn't particularly happy she had to kill Cinderella especially as Cinderella did not deserve it but FIRE happened and keeping that portrait in the gallery was just not in the cards. Regrets that it had to happen but thinks it had to happen.
I SELFISHLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THE LITTLE FRAGMENTS BEING DROPPED IN PLOT TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS OR THEORIES OR JUST JESUS TRISTAN NO ONE CARES THAT LAST ONE IS FINE TOO.
I REALLY ENJOYED THEM NGL just stalking all the death threads and catching the snippets :3ccc It's really cool how we got some backstory(???)/purpose and characters had a way in on those things and they could potentially use that information laterrrr... and on an ooc level it's fun to theorize/puzzle together the info with what we have and i look forward to seeing more stuff :3c
IN TERMS OF PLOT ~EVENTS~/HAPPENING, do you have a rough timeline in mind for when you want things to happen (ie, IN SIX MONTHS X SHOULD HAPPEN, with some leeway to people setting things on fire et al.) or do you plan to do things purely reactive to player input?
Mary's glad Cleo isn't shouty mad at her anymore and doesn't really mind the questions. They're understandable. . . you're in a weird place and no one will help explain anything to you. MARY DOESN'T LIKE TO LIE lies are hard to keep track of and she doesn't trust her own memory so lying is stupid to her. \o/ So she just gives bits that she can and is just kind of like. '-' okay is this enough yet. . . Uhm, well, if you want to know I guess. . . She is being vague and unhelpful intentionally at least in part.
COMPLICATED. Her thoughts on Mary have basically gone like:
she is the one who is making us play a game designed to be sadistic SHE IS ULTIMATE EVIL -> okay maybe mary is just dumb -> HOLY SHIT THAT WOLF IS FUCKING TERRIFYING THE WOLF IS EVIL IT NEEDS TO DIE -> okay mary cannot possibly be this dumb she is just evil -> no she really is that dumb -> JESUS SHIT CULT LEADER OKAY YES EVIL -> okay just a painting replica of a cult leader??? DUMB AND BEING HELPFUL?????
Honestly, Mary's being so willingly helpful caught Cleo so off-guard that she isn't even sure what she's asking anymore. She wants to know as much as she can pull out of Mary, but before she had a whole list of things to ask and then Mary was actually helpful and now Cleo is just sort of ?!??!!!!!
She also agrees with Mary's choice of 'put Cinderella down before everyone fucking dies', but that she showed up and did so makes her rather suspect that there is way more to Mary than being just another portrait! So she is a mass of confusion. Also pretty pissed over just wolfing everyone indiscriminately, because she honestly believes Mary absolutely had the power to avoid that.
BASICALLY REALLY CONFUSED, SUSPICIOUS, A TINY BIT PEEVED, FAIRLY GRATEFUL, AND HAVE I MENTIONED CONFUSED
He'd rearrange them so teams not celeste are as nonfunctional as he can. PUT VICIOUS PEOPLE AND YELLY JUSTICE PEOPLE TOGETHER. He'd put March with Shirayuki and Elliot. He'd want to exile Lark + Bunny but be unsure about giving himself an entirely new team, so he might keep them. DEFINITELY KEEP JACKAL. Acquire Mint for himself. Posssssssibly King or Aoko or Enkidu for his slot on Celeste.
CANARY MIGHT BE LEFT ALONE. SHELL MIGHT GET OFF LIKELY. NEITHER TEAMS ARE THREATS IN HIS MIND IF LEFT FUNCTIONAL, and he doesn't really need to rearrange them to destroy other teams.
BUT YEAH EVERY OTHER TEAM WOULD BE THE MOST HILARIOUS SHAMBLES. MARCH IN WITH SAGE. TEAMS THAT HAVE A STRONG TEAM FEEL WOULD BE COMPLETELY SCRAMBLED JUST FOR THE SAKE OF FUCKING WITH THEM. IT WOULD BE AWFUL, DON'T LET SHARK DO TEAM PLACEMENTS.
uhhh YOU'VE PLAYED AT EVERY AMNESIA GAME TOO what are your thoughts on the differences of flavors I guess?
He remembered his symbol and his interests were IMMEDIATELY ACQUIRE BACKUP. Shell needed a surgeon. SHELL THUS OWED HIM SOMETHING. Kaoru specifically was the one he did his amateur organ transplant on and he doubted he'd be a threat to him in any way. EASY TARGET.
but slavery happened and Kaoru as a backup plan fell through. WORST NIGHTMARE CAME THROUGH HAVING A BACKUP BODY HELPS ACTUALLY NOT AT ALL HERE.
he might completely forget he has power over Kaoru until they meet again, he is way too involved in other fallout to have a strong opinion on him right now. EVEN AS FAR AS TOOLS GO, he has Gilgamesh and he knows Gil could be useful because he remembers him in a way that paints him as a possible threat. and he is honestly scared of getting anything he actually wants right now because March might ruin it for the sake of ruining it. KAORU IS OFF THE HOOK CURRENTLY.
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on one hand, he legitimately feels Tavros is the last thing he has left. Horribly murdered in public, no one cares. Paraded about in public as a slave to the guy that murdered him, still no one cares. March trashed his room, has threatened that all Shark's things are his things and has pulled the dick move of trying to get Shark to "give" him Tavros which Shark was only able to refuse because it's impossible, Jackal is not his to give, but it's a lot of pressure. SO BASICALLY, LAST GOOD ONLY GOOD THING HE HAS.
and he doesn't want to get anywhere near him. BECAUSE OF THAT THREATENING MARCH HAS DONE he does not want to be used as a tool to torment Jackal which he knows he can be. He is super bitter about Jackal staying elsewhere but reassured that it's not because of him, but he wants to object NO WHY SAGE STAY WITH ME but because of those fears is like oh god bad idea. IS GLAD TAVROS IS STAYING AWAY BUT HATING ON SAGE BECAUSE OF IT.
He likes him but he's terrified that that affection is also the last thread to be cut MARCH GOT RID OF EVERYTHING ELSE will he really allow me to keep this one. It's better if I just don't see you Jackal so he can't cut itttt and basically he's driving himself a little crazy about Jackal. (And a lot of other things, but also Jackal)
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. . . And I'm pretty sure that if Packrat cut that one tie to protect him, Tavros would never go back ever. Like, saving Celeste in his mind would be completely impossible and it's already like... he's standing on a cliff, and one more thing can throw him off and there would be no saving it and that is such a terrible way to put it considering that Tavros got cliffed in canon!!
But uh. Yeah. Packrat is one of the few things saving Celeste as a team for him. . . He likes Lark and Bunny and he liked Dory!! But he can't with March, so if Packrat cuts that tie in order to protect him Celeste will never be able to get him back as a teammate. He'd end up roboting through everything that has to do with the team.
THAT IS HOW IMPORTANT PACKRAT IS TO HIM RIGHT NOW basically.
And he's really concerned about the slavery thing and WE SHOULD THREAD SOON BECAUSE TAVROS WANTS ANSWERS.
what are packrat's celeste feelings right now? :O
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IF I HAD THE ENERGY TO BE PISSED I WOULD BE PISSED.
as it is there's some bitter seething though not quite as bad as at Lark. he also thinks Bunny still doesn't get it what with offering to make him food and then agreeing to his enslavement we are clearly not on the same page here and he wants to beat him around the head with what this means to him. also the "taking this too seriously" comment. NO I AM TAKING THIS JUST SERIOUSLY ENOUGH YOU DICKWAD.
two in one comment is cheating but FINE SUNSHINE.
sunshine was at first a !!! shit guy who stabbed me and made me feel helpless THOUGH NOT IN THE MEMORY but in deco where he wasn't even aware he had that weakness. FIRST REACTION WAS ESTABLISH DOMINANCE ASAP. BUT OKAY CONTRACT TIMES/OPPORTUNITY CAME UP FOR HIM. and he jumped at that because honestly contract with March, he had given up the second he made it. IT'S UNBREAKABLE, BINDING. While he was smart enough to include a clause to allow for revision, he more or less had accepted he was totally fucked.
But now he hasss a servanttt that doesn't know he has command seals, and also hates March. PLUS, A THING HE HAS AND HAS POWER OVER. and he doesn't mind if he loses this one so much because there is no like or actual possessive feeling over Gilgamesh, even though Packrat coveted him Shark is like tool. When he is a little less blue-screen'd out Shark might be overcoming his fatalism and resignation to start plotting.
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And. Sunshine really doesn't like Shark. He used to just see him as "useful" because of the contract -- "I get all this magical energy that I need to survive and all he can do is say I'm his Servant which doesn't mean a lot since I don't have to obey him!!" Bbbut that's changed recently with the command seal relevation and moved more into the "oh god what if he finds out about them and orders me to do something terrible" territory. On a personal level he dislikes Shark's attitude and really the command seals only add to that. WE WILL HAVE TALKS SHARK
Would Shark really try to take advantage of SERVANT!!1 in order to get back at March eventually or
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all other feelings and positive impressions are now he straight up hates lark. WELL OF COURSE YOU SOULLESS TOOL DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH ME BEING MARCH'S BITCH NOW BUT ME I'M LESS THAN PLEASED. betrayal feelings and bitterness and lark was the one he liked best out of new teammates but no love is over.
he would like to find out how to make lark suffer. and then make sure he suffers for a very long time.
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thought you were joking but gave you the chance to confirm joking and... well...
isn't really sure how to behave around Shark but does still want to talk to him because people liking him matters five billion times less than him liking people when it comes to who Lark wants to spend time around? HENCE A LOT OF HOLE DIGGING MOSTLY \o/ #winning #celeste #etc.
DOES FEEL BAD ABOUT HELPING GET YOU KILLED but he's not going to apologize either because he wouldn't... take it back... so he's not actually sorry \o/
don't worry he'll stop feeling bad soon.
anyway though Shark is totally justified in hating him and Lark knows it so he's not going to. defend himself ever, and. it isn't affecting his opinions on Shark at all...
how is Mary doing?
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MINT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOW THE CINDERELLA THING WENT DOWN
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tl;dr the fact that Cinderella never confronted her about what she did and in fact she had to be the one to confront Cinderella is something she considers the absolute worst thing, an unforgivable low blow. Having (inadvertently!) caused the situation that made her have to watch her teammates die is something she is trying desperately not to think about or blame herself for (this is not working). She gives negative fucks about what any non-shell thinks, and rather than be scared off from pissing off paintings she feels even more enmity towards them--she'll just make sure to personally introduce herself to any portraits she wrongs in the future (possibly as March Hare of Celeste /o/). Also, if Cinderella ever returns she is attacking the shit out of it, no hesitation. :|b
HOW MUCH DID MINT RUIN THINGS OOCLY? what was the original plan for cinderella and resetting the gallery, if that's not too spoilery to ask?
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I SELFISHLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THE LITTLE FRAGMENTS BEING DROPPED IN PLOT TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS OR THEORIES OR JUST JESUS TRISTAN NO ONE CARES THAT LAST ONE IS FINE TOO.
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IN TERMS OF PLOT ~EVENTS~/HAPPENING, do you have a rough timeline in mind for when you want things to happen (ie, IN SIX MONTHS X SHOULD HAPPEN, with some leeway to people setting things on fire et al.) or do you plan to do things purely reactive to player input?
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CLEO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MARY?
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she is the one who is making us play a game designed to be sadistic SHE IS ULTIMATE EVIL -> okay maybe mary is just dumb -> HOLY SHIT THAT WOLF IS FUCKING TERRIFYING THE WOLF IS EVIL IT NEEDS TO DIE -> okay mary cannot possibly be this dumb she is just evil -> no she really is that dumb -> JESUS SHIT CULT LEADER OKAY YES EVIL -> okay just a painting replica of a cult leader??? DUMB AND BEING HELPFUL?????
Honestly, Mary's being so willingly helpful caught Cleo so off-guard that she isn't even sure what she's asking anymore. She wants to know as much as she can pull out of Mary, but before she had a whole list of things to ask and then Mary was actually helpful and now Cleo is just sort of ?!??!!!!!
She also agrees with Mary's choice of 'put Cinderella down before everyone fucking dies', but that she showed up and did so makes her rather suspect that there is way more to Mary than being just another portrait! So she is a mass of confusion. Also pretty pissed over just wolfing everyone indiscriminately, because she honestly believes Mary absolutely had the power to avoid that.
BASICALLY REALLY CONFUSED, SUSPICIOUS, A TINY BIT PEEVED, FAIRLY GRATEFUL, AND HAVE I MENTIONED CONFUSED
So how is Packrat handling... life right now.
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He'd rearrange them so teams not celeste are as nonfunctional as he can. PUT VICIOUS PEOPLE AND YELLY JUSTICE PEOPLE TOGETHER. He'd put March with Shirayuki and Elliot. He'd want to exile Lark + Bunny but be unsure about giving himself an entirely new team, so he might keep them. DEFINITELY KEEP JACKAL. Acquire Mint for himself. Posssssssibly King or Aoko or Enkidu for his slot on Celeste.
CANARY MIGHT BE LEFT ALONE. SHELL MIGHT GET OFF LIKELY. NEITHER TEAMS ARE THREATS IN HIS MIND IF LEFT FUNCTIONAL, and he doesn't really need to rearrange them to destroy other teams.
BUT YEAH EVERY OTHER TEAM WOULD BE THE MOST HILARIOUS SHAMBLES. MARCH IN WITH SAGE. TEAMS THAT HAVE A STRONG TEAM FEEL WOULD BE COMPLETELY SCRAMBLED JUST FOR THE SAKE OF FUCKING WITH THEM. IT WOULD BE AWFUL, DON'T LET SHARK DO TEAM PLACEMENTS.
uhhh YOU'VE PLAYED AT EVERY AMNESIA GAME TOO what are your thoughts on the differences of flavors I guess?
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He remembered his symbol and his interests were IMMEDIATELY ACQUIRE BACKUP. Shell needed a surgeon. SHELL THUS OWED HIM SOMETHING. Kaoru specifically was the one he did his amateur organ transplant on and he doubted he'd be a threat to him in any way. EASY TARGET.
but slavery happened and Kaoru as a backup plan fell through. WORST NIGHTMARE CAME THROUGH HAVING A BACKUP BODY HELPS ACTUALLY NOT AT ALL HERE.
he might completely forget he has power over Kaoru until they meet again, he is way too involved in other fallout to have a strong opinion on him right now. EVEN AS FAR AS TOOLS GO, he has Gilgamesh and he knows Gil could be useful because he remembers him in a way that paints him as a possible threat. and he is honestly scared of getting anything he actually wants right now because March might ruin it for the sake of ruining it. KAORU IS OFF THE HOOK CURRENTLY.
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